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Kade Jeekin
Kinda'Shujaa
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Posted - 2012.05.03 15:27:00 -
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I have always supported the concept of a lock-out feature and am interested to see that it may be implemented. However, I consider that the currently proposed mechanism is flawed, effectively penalising players for joining a militia corp. Consider that pirates in Amamake would have free access to all stations whereas TLF pilots would be completely excluded should the system ever become occupied by the Amarrian forces (extreme unlikely example I know but you get the point)
My vision of the feature has always been linked to personal/corporation standings to the station's corporation or faction.
Implementing it by standings would affect all players across all NPC space.
Hisec would operate on a NRDS basis:
STANDING: EFFECT
Excellent/Good: Free Access
Neutral: Free Access
Bad/Terrible: Lock Out
And losec on a NBSI basis:
STANDING: EFFECT
Excellent/Good: Free Access
Neutral: Lock Out
Bad/Terrible: Lock Out
NB: If you are at war with a faction, by joining an opposing militia, then you should be treated as having Bad/Terrible standings until you leave the opposing militia. Similar to the mechanism for the Faction Navies in NPC hisec.
This would prepare players for nullsec station mechanics without being too restrictive, as getting standings with NPC corporations is relatively simple.
I reiterate that this feature should be on a station by station basis, not on a system by system basis. So an Amarrian crusader (spit!) could still dock in Amarrian stations in Minmatar losec, or even hisec, that they have good standings with.
Taking this a step further would see the expulsion of faction aligned stations from an opposing faction's hisec, perhaps extending this to losec too.
Finally, militia stations would become conquerable stations, like exist in NPC nullsec but only conquerable by the opposing faction and only when the system is vulnerable or occupied by the opposing faction.
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Kade Jeekin
Kinda'Shujaa
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Posted - 2012.05.07 19:52:00 -
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Dirk Smacker wrote:
Or they could make you clear the npc's in order to cap.
Why haven't they implemented this?
It seems like an easy fix. There's plenty of missions where the spawn has to be cleared before either a gate is opened or a can is dropped.
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Kade Jeekin
Kinda'Shujaa
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Posted - 2012.05.09 09:28:00 -
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Julius Foederatus wrote:Station lockouts would be fine if they would stop neutrals from being able to dock in the warzone as well, if their standings were low enough. If neutrals get to share the benefits of FW system upgrades, then they should share the penalties as well. Frankly I don't think CCP has the balls to do something like that so this will probably be easily gamed. I think it's a good idea in principle though.
But for christ's sake CCP, give us something actually worth upgrading a system for like cyno jammers.
Personally I didn't think that CCP had the balls to implement station lockout at all. So, there is hope that they'll ask neutral players also to HTFU and implement standings-based station access, expel opposing factions from empire hisec, and conquerable militia stations.
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Kade Jeekin
Kinda'Shujaa
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Posted - 2012.05.09 12:10:00 -
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Cearain wrote:This will mean I can not play eve unless I can make sure I have that extra uninterrupted time set aside. I often will just sign on for a half hour and roam to find a system busy with wts and pop open a plex hoping for fight. Now I am going to have to go jumping several jumps back to and from base everytime. These sorts of roams will be very limitted or likely even non-existant. When I am with a gang I usually can not stay online for the entire roam before I have to quit for the night. So this change means I will need to leave the gang even earlier so I can go several jumps back to base. So for me, I know this means less eve.
Sorry I don't undestand this arguement. You don't have to dock-up before you log off.
Perhaps because I've RP'd the station lock-out concept myself as long as I've been playing FW that simply logging off in space seems natural.
There's plenty of options: POS, safe-spot logging, cloaking. I really don't understand your problem. |
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